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Benn Jordan on Flock, privacy, and the new surveillance backlash

L2 · PractitionerIndustry & BusinessThe Verge AI$· 10/15/2026

Explores real-world consequences of AI surveillance tools and regulatory responses affecting practitioners who use or evaluate these systems.

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An interview with Benn Jordan about the growing backlash against Flock Safety's license plate readers and broader concerns about AI-powered surveillance systems.

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Today, I’m talking with Benn Jordan, musician, YouTuber, researcher, and investigative journalist. You might know Benn from those first two titles — he’s got a prolific discography of experimental music dating back decades. But in the last couple of years, he’s become a high-profile face in the creator and media spaces for his work investigating Flock Safety, the maker of automatic license plate readers and the software that powers them. Benn recently testified in front of Congress, at a hearing

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